Part
I
Interview
with Clancy Brown
Conducted
by Beth Blighton
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Beth
Blighton: How did
you end up spending Oscar Night?
Clancy
Brown: We decided just to stay home
and I ended up on the phone with my family
for most of it.
BB: It was good to
see Robin Williams win.
CB:
Yes, absolutely.
BB: Was that a fun
experience doing "Flubber" with him?
CB:
Yeah, he's one of the "actors of our time"
so now I can say I've worked with him.
BB: No kidding. Couldn't
have been boring.
CB:
No it wasn't. It did get boring occasionally,
usually when he wasn't around. (laughs)
BB: You took your
fair share of abuse in that one, but at
least your little girl will be able to see
it.
CB:
Yeah, eventually. (laughs) And she'll probably
wonder about the high-heels in my eyes.
BB: Does she ever
hear you doing the cartoons?
CB:
She just heard me do Lex Luthor over the
weekend, and she kinda turned around, but
she doesn't quite make that connection yet.
BB: How old is she
now?
CB:
Two and a half.
BB: That's a great
age.
CB:
Do you have kids?
BB:
Just one, he's about to turn twelve. That
scares me because I've suddenly become an
idiot. I'm boring. To your daughter, at
her age, you're a god.
CB:
I presume I'm an idiot from the beginning.
(laughs)
BB: So how is everyone?
Have you heard anything from any of your
E2 co-stars?
CB:
I talk to Gegenhuber every now and then.
I don't speak to Debrah very much. Not because
we don't try, but every time she calls I'm
not around; every time I call, she's not
around.
BB: I just talked
to John for an interview a couple of weeks
ago. That was a lot of fun.
CB:
He's a great guy.
BB: What have you
been up to? Do you have any new projects?
CB:
Nothing really. My wife Jeanne is a freelance
news journalist, so she got very, very busy
here in LA on the Monica Lewinsky beat.
So I've been pretty much being a dad, and
being a mom, too.
BB: That's fun.
CB:
I prefer that.
BB: I imagine, from
your point of view this whole Lewinsky thing
has got to be pretty bizarre.
CB:
It's silly, I think.
BB: So has real life
fatherhood turned out to be anything like
what you had to do on the screen? Was that
good practice?
CB:
Oh, yeah! You know . . . well . . . of course
it's NOT! (laughs) But I was pretty comfortable
with it while I was doing it. And then I
look back on it -- I haven't really watched
too many of the episodes since it's been
on the SciFi Channel, but those ones that
I do see, I definitely can imagine myself
being as obsessive about it as he was.
BB: How can you not?
CB:
Exactly. Especially with a beautiful daughter
like that. If I had a son, maybe not so
much, I think that's probably gender bias.
BB: Well, then that
would be your wife's worry.
CB:
Exactly. But I'm having a good time doing
it. I wish I could say it's similar, but
I had NO idea.
BB: It kinda sneaks
up on you. Now we know she has your eyes,
did she end up with your curly hair?
CB:
It's hard to say right now. She has a lot
of it and it's blond and it's straight as
we speak, but as I look back at pictures
of my sister and me, it was straight until
we were about six. She wasn't born with
curly hair. It'll probably start flipping
up here pretty soon.
BB: You had such great
chemistry with Madison, was it there when
you read, when you did the auditions, or
did that develop once you started filming?
CB:
It was pretty much there from the beginning.
It was certainly manufactured early on.
But that was pretty easy to manufacture.
She's an adorable, sweet little girl. Beautiful.
BB: She was so polite
at the convention.
CB:
She's aces. And it certainly developed as
we went on. She actually had quite a rapport
with Antonio. Which is understandable, since
basically he's gorgeous, and they have about
the same capacity the capacity of
an eleven or twelve year old. And I say
that with great affection. So they were
of "like minds". She missed her dad, so
I was a handy surrogate for a little while.
I didn't spend as much time with them as
I would have liked to, or they would have
liked to, but she's her own person. I certainly
haven't spent as much time afterward as
I would like to.
BB: I imagine she's
about grown up now.
CB:
Yeah, I rented something last week. My daughter
and I were in the video store -- we go in
and get the Disney videos and she
saw some thing with a little puppy on the
cover.
BB: Oh, "Shiloh"?
CB:
Yeah, and she just adores the covers, so
she wants to get those. So I said, "Okay,
fine, we'll get those." It's as good a reason
as any to rent a kid's video. And I turn
it on, and of course she's not interested
in it cuz there's not enough puppies in
it, not enough of the dog, and she wants
the dogs to talk and whatnot. But I made
her sit down and watch it because Maddie
was in it.
BB: Was there anything
you wish they had done more of on Earth2
that they didn't get a chance to do?
CB:
More of them! I really liked the direction
it was going with respect to the episodes
like that "Rashomon" story -- "Survival
of the Fittest". I LOVE that director and
writer, John Harrison. He also did "The
Enemy Within", which I thought was terrific,
and he also did the final episode, which
was little more problematic, in that it
had all sorts of missions to fulfill. All
sorts of agendas. "Survival of the Fittest"
was purely Harrison. "The Enemy Within",
was not purely Harrison but it was definitely
touched by him and more along his line.
Because it was pretty much character-driven.
That's the one I actually sat down and watched
[on the SciFi Channel]. That's the one Jessica
was so good in.
BB: In "Survival of
the Fittest", I think your finest moment
was begging for True's life.
CB:
That was a little indulgent, actually. I
would change it a little bit, but...
BB: Mmm, I don't know.
You made ME cry, so... Congratulations!
CB:
(laughs) Yeah, well, all right then.
BB: Did you keep anything
as a souvenir from Earth2 or New Mexico?
CB:
Oh sure, I've got New Mexico everywhere
in my house, somewhere. There's so many
Earth2 souvenirs that I've kept. I have
my jacket. The original jacket. The very
first time I wore it was the very first
time we worked on it. I sort of kept it
through the thing, I used it every now and
then, but I made sure I got that one. I
just love the Roanoke reference on it.
BB: So that was on
purpose?
CB:
Oh yeah, absolutely.
BB: Did you keep any
souvenirs from your other movies?
CB:
Oh sure. I've got little things, here and
there. I don't even know what they all are.
Most of them are pictures and stuff like
that. If you do it long enough, there's
just so much junk! But Earth2 was real .
. .. I have all the scripts and stuff. It
was just a lot of fun. It was definitely
a high point that I'll look back on with
great affection.
BB: It looked like
you were having fun. It looked you were
having a great time with eachother.
CB:
Most of us were. It was definitely a highlight
for me. I completely enjoyed it. Hell, my
daughter was conceived while I was working
on it!
BB: So THERE'S you're
most memorable souvenir! Now, Tierre Turner
described you once in a Starlog Magazine
as "a big ol' farm boy from Ohio". Is that
accurate? Are you a farm boy?
CB:
Yeah, sure, why not? (laughs) Well, Tierre
has got a little Ohio in him, as well. He's
a pretty remarkable guy. He's been around
forever. He's got kids everywhere. Knows
exactly what he's doing. He's someone I'm
happy to call a friend. I don't know many
people that he wouldn't call a friend, though,
which is why he's a better man than me.
He's just so damned gracious and charming.
I'm surprised he didn't call me a "polar
bear". There was one night during the Pilot,
when we were out all night on this cliff,
and then we had to go to work the next morning,
so we ended up staying at the set in one
of the trailers. Of course, the trailer
wasn't heated or anything, and it was a
cool desert night. Me, I just fell right
to sleep. But Tierre gets up the next morning
and says, "Oh my God! I can't believe how
COLD I am! I didn't sleep at all!" I said,
"Are you kidding me? I slept like a baby."
He said, "Well, you're just a big POLAR
BEAR!" And I said, well, ya know, I'm from
Ohio, man! (laughter) Ya know, we're used
to sleeping outside if the fields aren't
plowed. We can get cold and it doesn't bother
us!
BB: You've played
villains, heroes, psychos and even the love
interest, you've done some slap stick. Is
there anything you haven't gotten to do
in your acting career that you would like
to do, yet?
CB:
Hmm... I don't know. Whatever the next one
is. I've gotten a little less ambitious
that way. I don't plan out about career
and stuff like that. There's so much good
about everything you do. I mean, the best
thing about it is that you get to do it
in the first place. I can't really put my
finger on it, because if I said one thing
that would mean I didn't say something else.
One thing I'd love to do, just sort of irrespective
of anything else, I'd love to do a "Star
Trek" movie or something -- just because
it's a cultural touchstone. It's sort of
"of my generation." I've always liked "Star
Trek", and I especially like them now that
they're getting smart. They're sort of smart
compared to everything else, even the originals.
BB: Personally, I
always thought you'd have made a great young
Darth Vader in the next "Star Wars" movies.
CB:
There you go! That would be terrific, too!
"Star Wars" is another of those cultural
things, but that's not Shakespeare. That's
not like the really esoteric dream I have
of going into some province and spending
the rest of my days doing.
BB: Having read "The
Green Mile" by Stephen King, I could have
sworn he wrote the part of Brutus Howell
with you in mind.
CB:
Frank Darabont who did "Shawshank Redemption"
is doing that. That might be why you brought
that up. I've sort of had a peripheral conversation
about it, and actually ran into Bill Sadler
and talked about it a little bit. And (laughter)
as much as I adore Frank, and as good as
I hear "Green Mile" is -- I have to read
it, yet -- and as much as I KNOW it will
be a terrific movie, kinda the last thing
I want to do -- and probably the last thing
Frank wants to do -- is start casting the
same people he had in "Shawshank" in another
Stephen King prison movie.
BB: It would be sort
of fun, though, to see Byron Hadley go good.
CB:
Right, well, like I said, I've gotta read
it. I told him, "I'm of the same mind you
are. I'm not especially inclined to reprise
the same character or reprise even a similar
character with a different twist, but if
there's anything you want me to do, please
feel free." It's sort of like the thing
with "Dead Man Walking", when Tim [Robbins]
was doing that. He called me to do that
little part in there, that he originally
figured he would do. And then he decided
not to, and he couldn't find anyone to do
it, so he called me. But his idea was that
he would do it. It was kind of a glib idea
and it was to inject some humor into it,
but he sort of decided against it, because
he thought "I have this pretty intense movie,
it's pretty good, and I don't want to take
people out of it by being the director acting
with his wife" or whatever they are. So
that's the same way I feel about Frank and
"Green Mile". It's going to be a good movie.
He's a good director and good writer, so
he wouldn't want to take anyone out of it
by putting me in a similar uniform. I wouldn't
want him to do that. I'd rather do something
else with Frank.
PART
II